OpenAI employees revolt after board names new CEO and Altman heads to Microsoft

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All over but the bleeding.

But the story isn't over yet, because Monday morning, 505 of 700 OpenAI employees sent a letter to the OpenAI board demanding that all current board members resign and Altman and Brockman be reinstated, or they will likely leave to join Altman and Brockman at Microsoft.

Scene: Your company's leadership has just been decapitated in one of the loudest, ugliest, and strangest spasms of recent corporate governance. Three quarters of your colleagues, including you, threatened to leave. And the board says "okay, we quit, Sam is back, yay!" How many reams of paper are still spent on resumes in the next, I don't know, forty five minutes? How fast would you run? I'd run really fast!
 
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From the letter:



What on earth? What's the deal with these board members, are they terrified of the Terminator or something else?
The board not only nuked the company, they nuked their non-profit as well. It is nonsensical and every one of them needs to disappear for a very long time.
 
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Microsoft just announced that they have developed their own custom machine learning chips. Their main contribution to OpenAI has been the donation of enormous amounts of cloud compute time for model training. It sounds like they're going their own way without OpenAI. It could be that Altman knew about this and planned to join them anyway. That's against the non-profit angle of OpenAI, which might have irked the board. They had a spat about that, and Altman left anyway. Now he may take the bulk of the company with him! Oddly, he had no stock in OpenAI. He might be getting a lot of stock from Microsoft, as will the rest of them.
 
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Microsoft won a battle they didn't even plan to fight, that much is clear.

If I was the OpenAI board right now, I would strongly be considering an outright sale to Microsoft.

Microsoft can only buy the company if it comes with all the IP, which I doubt OpenAIs board will sell. If they do sell it, then the conspiracy hat comes on that Microsoft engineered this entire drama.

Crossposting my reply from another thread.

There's a zero dollar valuation (negative equity really). There's no $20 billion valuation when 500/700 employees leave overnight and Microsoft releases GPT5 next year that blows GPT4 out of the water.

You have to realize that this is a cash bleeding machine, OpenAI does not have a viable business model YET, so the only value they have is their employees. Only an idiot would buy this company (Elon?), especially since you can just hire the remaining 200 employees instead.

Also don't underestimate the influence that Microsoft and Y-Combinator has amongst tech-society. The non-profit board just nuked their for-profit entity, they also ensured they will not receive substantial donations from anyone in tech.
 
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Sarty

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If I was the OpenAI board right now, I would strongly be considering an outright sale to Microsoft.
In sports parlance, you don't trade for the star player who's just about to hit free agency.

What is the company qua company worth at this point? I suppose they have some fairly juicy IP, but I don't have a great feel for how much of the "value" created by OpenAI hasn't been in learning from mistakes in order to train increasingly sophisticated LLMs, and IANAL but it seems like a steep hill to climb to try to make an engineering team forget their previous mistakes.
 
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Microsoft can only buy the company if it comes with all the IP, which I doubt OpenAIs board will sell. If they do sell it, then the conspiracy hat comes on that Microsoft engineered this entire drama.

Crossposting my reply from another thread.

Microsoft already has at least some IP rights from their previous deal with OpenAI.

Like I said, if I was the OpenAI board...I'm not saying Microsoft would want to/should do it when they can just hire away all the talent, but it might still be easier to buy OpenAI (or their for-profit arm, at least, depending on legal stuff I know nothing about) outright at this point...at a valuation nowhere near what it was worth on Friday morning.
 
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Microsoft just announced that they have developed their own custom machine learning chips. Their main contribution to OpenAI has been the donation of enormous amounts of cloud compute time for model training. It sounds like they're going their own way without OpenAI. It could be that Altman knew about this and planned to join them anyway. That's against the non-profit angle of OpenAI, which might have irked the board. They had a spat about that, and Altman left anyway. Now he may take the bulk of the company with him! Oddly, he had no stock in OpenAI. He might be getting a lot of stock from Microsoft, as will the rest of them.
This is the best conclusion I've read based on the information that's been made public. Brilliant!
 
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The more this plays out, the less any previously offered explanation makes any sense.
I think it's clear that the board is full of rank AMATEURS. They really thought they could fire Sam Altman without the entire company imploding. Absolute idiots who don't know the first thing about running a company and leading engineers who want to do their job and get paid. Quality management matters, rapid commercialization matters, and engineers are figuring that out in real time.
 
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In sports parlance, you don't trade for the star player who's just about to hit free agency.

What is the company qua company worth at this point? I suppose they have some fairly juicy IP, but I don't have a great feel for how much of the "value" created by OpenAI hasn't been in learning from mistakes in order to train increasingly sophisticated LLMs, and IANAL but it seems like a steep hill to climb to try to make an engineering team forget their previous mistakes.
It depends how much secret sauce is in ChatGPT and whether OpenAI has patents or could at least claim there are trade secrets involved? I wouldn't have thought Altman et al could move to a new company and just clone ChatGPT on Day 1.
 
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